Posts by The Dragon

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JESUS CAN NOT BE JEHOVAH GOD IN THE FLESH

by juni in

jehovah the god of the hebrew scriptures treatment of his creation is questionable.. jesus (his son) of the greek scriptures only on one occasion lost his temper - in the temple w/the money changers.

otherwise he was kind and patient and compassionate for people.. how can this be?

why such a difference in personality if they are the same "person"?

The Dragon

That could very well be....

Nice point...I just wish we knew for sure.

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2 Pet. 3:10 "earth and the works in it will be discovered"?? or burned up?

by M.J. in

here's the nwt rendering of the verse:.

(2 peter 3:10) 10 yet jehovahs day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.. other translations say the earth will "burn up".. nkj: but the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.. ylt: and it will come -- the day of the lord -- as a thief in the night, in which the heavens with a rushing noise will pass away, and the elements with burning heat be dissolved, and earth and the works in it shall be burnt up.. same goes for every other translation i've found.. the word in question, katakaio according to the lexicons i've seen only point to the meaning of: burn & consume by fire.. where did the nwt get "discovered" from?.

The Dragon

I have found in my research that every single word must be dissected....written words can be vague and allow self exalted leaders/teachers to define these words to fit their desires and adgendas and claim it is God's definition of the word..or truth.

Without the Author present to answer the question and give His defintition...you have guesses and NOT truth...however if you are satisfied with accepting others guesses as facts.....have fun with that.

It leaves me very hungry and upset they killed Him personally.

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JESUS CAN NOT BE JEHOVAH GOD IN THE FLESH

by juni in

jehovah the god of the hebrew scriptures treatment of his creation is questionable.. jesus (his son) of the greek scriptures only on one occasion lost his temper - in the temple w/the money changers.

otherwise he was kind and patient and compassionate for people.. how can this be?

why such a difference in personality if they are the same "person"?

The Dragon

Is that like saying judge yourself...and stop judging others?

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JESUS CAN NOT BE JEHOVAH GOD IN THE FLESH

by juni in

jehovah the god of the hebrew scriptures treatment of his creation is questionable.. jesus (his son) of the greek scriptures only on one occasion lost his temper - in the temple w/the money changers.

otherwise he was kind and patient and compassionate for people.. how can this be?

why such a difference in personality if they are the same "person"?

The Dragon

If we are to be..or are sons of God...why did he call His brothers "little children"?

I can only guess...I am not allowed to read His mind today (unlike others who claim they can)..But could it have actually have been Him showing us how to be his sons...by showing(not just telling) how He would like His sons to act? by actually showing what a son of God should do..and be prepared to do to protect their weaker brothers and sisters?

I can only guess though.....

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Little children deserve to die at Armageddon

by jambon1 in

for the life of me, i cannot work this one out.

it disturbed me when i was a jw and it now just makes me plain angry.. here are some comments from ministerial servants & elders on this subject, which i heard when i was in:.

"you know, a while ago, people used to object to the idea of children dying at armageddon but nowadays there is a spirit in kids (massive generalisation), which just seems to make them fit for destruction.

The Dragon

That is not my definition of "good news"...see how words have different meanings to different people.

What was Hitler's definition of "good news"..or "peace"?

I am pretty confident that his goals being met was his idea of peace on earth..although I don't think the Jews would have agreed...and would have defined his definition of peace on earth as "death".

How much different is the JW doctrine definition of "peace on earth" or "good news"?

or would all others define their defintions as "death" for them?

Abate the hate..or is too late for them to do so now?

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Little children deserve to die at Armageddon

by jambon1 in

for the life of me, i cannot work this one out.

it disturbed me when i was a jw and it now just makes me plain angry.. here are some comments from ministerial servants & elders on this subject, which i heard when i was in:.

"you know, a while ago, people used to object to the idea of children dying at armageddon but nowadays there is a spirit in kids (massive generalisation), which just seems to make them fit for destruction.

The Dragon

They obvisiously define unconditional love as judgement and death to the people who don't make the same sacrifices they do, and agree and obey them and how they think they should live their lives.

Kinda sick ain't it? I don't even think they realize what the hell they are really doing for real..kinda sad too imo.

Their words say "unconditional love" but their thoughts, actions, and intentions say judgement, punishment, and death to anyone who does not measure to their idea of a master race.

If Jesus was going to kill everyone..why did He bother dying to protect them..and beg for them to be forgiven and spared?

Can you forgive and condemn and it be the same thing?

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What prophecies pointed to Timothy and gave him his gift?

by The Dragon in

was reading this the other day...and there is no undisputable answer to this question.. .

was timothy and his gift foretold?

where the letters ment for a kid in pauls time..or a are they coded messages and instructions to a kid in the future who understands the code?.

The Dragon

was reading this the other day...and there is no undisputable answer to this question.

Was timothy and his gift foretold?

Where the letters ment for a kid in Pauls time..or a are they coded messages and instructions to a kid in the future who understands the code?

What was the "wine" he was told to drink for his frequent sickness? can someone provide a undisputable answer to these questions? Or a guess presented as an answer would be better than nothing I suppose...those seem to be about all we can get these days anyway.

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Are we "evil" by choice..or don't know a better way yet?

by The Dragon in

are people "evil" (in god's definition?

) or just don't know what "good" is yet?

(god's defintion of good that is).. how many people would be saved if they somehow found they wanted to do "good"?

The Dragon

Are people "evil" (in God's definition?) or just don't know what "good" is yet? (God's defintion of good that is).

How many people would be saved if they somehow found they wanted to do "good"? Could people be convinced to do good if they seen the end results of doing it? And liked them?

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Is Jehovah evil? Overheard at the public talk.

by Zico in

i heard a new teaching from the public talk today that i'd never heard before.

the speaker asked a rhetorical question, asking if jehovah would be evil for killing 6 billion people during armageddon?

(yes, he actually said, killing 6 billion people) he then followed it up by saying 'yes!

The Dragon

How do you justify or defend a god who plans to kill billions of people..who don't even know the truth as to the definitions of the words He used in the Bible?

We don't have a clue as to what "evil" is...righteousness is..hell we don't even know what "fire" is!

Go ask everyone what "evil" is..see how many different answers you get. Ask your self who knows God's definition of "evil" out of all of them.

I think we are all "evil"..but it is still just my guess..and i also don't think we are "evil" by choice...just don't know anything better yet.

Again....just my guess.

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Does God communicate with you?

by Fisherman in

a bible verse says " ..the one planting the ear can he not listen?

".

The Dragon

I have tossed this over a few times.....

No way of knowing what if any of our thoughts are truly our own..or a higher power commmunicating with us.

he may have helped einstian build the bomb so we could destroy ourselves for Him, saving Him the trouble and responsibility of doing it.

All I have is guesses..and questions.

Only God himself knows the true answer to that question...And I am not allowed to read his mind today.